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Joe Topinka, J.D., M.B.A., M.H.A. appears on the Karen Conti show with fellow guest Dr. Jennifer Lawless, a professor at the University of Virginia! They discuss the anticipation of the city of Chicago’s first African-American female mayor. How will a woman conduct herself and govern differently in this prestigious position?
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